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Harris holding moderated conversations with Liz Cheney in three battleground states

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(WASHINGTON) -- Vice President Kamala Harris is doing a series of moderated conversations with former Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney in suburban cities in the battleground states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin on Monday -- the day before in-person voting begins in Wisconsin.

With roughly two weeks until Election Day, the effort is part of the Harris campaign's effort to reach swing voters in the crucial battleground states. Harris is speaking with Cheney in the suburban areas of Chester County, Pennsylvania; Oakland County, Michigan; and Waukesha County, Wisconsin.

The conversations were to be moderated by Bulwark publisher and longtime Republican strategist Sarah Longwell and conservative radio host and writer Charlie Sykes.

Both Harris and former President Donald Trump have events scheduled for battleground states this week as they work to win over voters in what's expected to be a close contest. On Monday, Trump is spending time in in the battleground state of North Carolina.

While in Pennsylvania, Harris and Cheney worked to pick off Republicans disaffected with their party's nominee who may vote for the vice president and focus on the dangers Trump poses to the country and to democracy -- especially white suburban women who voted Republican.

"There are months in the history of our country which challenge us, each of us, to really decide when we stand for those things that we talk about, including, in particular, country over party," Harris said.

Cheney, a staunch Trump critic who endorsed Harris in September despite their party and policy differences, said "every single thing in my experience and in my background has played a part" in her supporting Harris.

"In this race, we have the opportunity to vote for and support somebody you can count on. We're not always going to agree, but I know Vice President Harris will always do what she believes is right for this country. She has a sincere heart, and that's why I'm honored to be in this place."

At the Michigan event, Cheney said that she understood why some Republicans would find it difficult to publicly support Harris.

"I certainly have many Republicans who will say to me, 'I can't be public.' They do worry about a whole range of things, including violence. But, but they'll do the right thing," she said.

“And I would just remind people, if you're at all concerned, you can vote your conscience and not ever have to say a word to anybody, and there will be millions of Republicans who do that on November 5th, vote for Vice President Harris,” she added.

Cheney voted to impeach Trump following the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and was vice chair of the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. She received backlash from Trump and other Republicans for her criticism of the former president and was censured by the Republican National Committee.

Since her endorsement of Harris, Cheney has campaigned for the vice president -- including in battleground Wisconsin, where she called Trump petty, vindictive and cruel.

Cheney is among a handful of prominent Republicans, including her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, who have pledged to support Harris' bid.

The number of actual votes these events could move, with just two weeks to go, is small -- yet could be significant in states expected to be decided by slim margins, Joe Zepecki, a Milwaukee-based Democratic strategist, told ABC News.

Ideally, Zepecki said, the events would bring over "Republicans available to Harris who might need one last reminder, one last push in that direction."

George Levy, a 66-year-old voter from Delaware County, outside Philadelphia, said he was an independent until Trump entered the political arena in 2015.

"I'm never going back. I'll be a Democrat from now on," he told ABC News as he waited in line to enter the intimate theater in Malvern, Pennsylvania, a Philadelphia suburb that was the site of the first Cheney discussion of the day.

"[Cheney] did the right thing for our country, and I'm proud of her for doing that," he said. "I know she doesn't agree with many Democratic policies, but she believes in our country and loves our country, and I appreciate her speaking out."

In a social media post on Monday, Trump attacked Harris for campaigning with Cheney, claiming that the former Wyoming Republican congresswoman is going to lead the United States to go to war with "every Muslim Country known to mankind" like her father and former Vice President Dick Cheney "pushed" former President Georgia W. Bush to the war in the Middle East.

Harris' events this week will feature more interactivity where voters see the vice president taking questions -- including during her town hall with CNN on Wednesday in Pennsylvania.

ABC News' Sarah Beth Hensley contributed to this report.

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Harris works to appeal to Black men, a critical group for Democrats

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(WASHINGTON, D.C.) -- For a second day this week, Vice President Kamala Harris is focusing on a key voting bloc that is a critical base for the Democratic Party: Black men.

On Tuesday, Harris will participate in an audio town hall event with Charlemagne tha God, host for the popular "The Breakfast Club" podcast. Also on Tuesday, the vice president is meeting with Black entrepreneurs in Detroit.

Her events come a day after her campaign rolled out a comprehensive plan -- just three weeks until the election -- to help Black men "get ahead" economically, which includes providing one million fully forgivable loans to Black entrepreneurs and an effort to invest in Black male teachers.

In an interview on "Roland Martin Unfiltered," also released on Monday, Harris argued that economic policies that consider "historical barriers" facing Black people benefit all Americans.

"If you have public policy, and I'm talking about economic public policy specifically at this point, but if you have public policy that recognizes historical barriers and what we need to do then to overcome," Harris said. "First, speak truth about them and then overcome them, that in the process of doing that, not only are you directly dealing with the injustices and the legal and procedural barriers that have been focused on Black folks, but by eliminating those barriers, everyone actually benefits, right?"

The focus on Black voters comes after former President Barack Obama sternly chided Black men over "excuses" to not vote for Harris while speaking to a group of Black at a campaign field office in Pittsburgh's East Liberty neighborhood last week.

"You have [Trump], who has consistently shown disregard, not just for the communities, but for you as a person, and you're thinking about sitting out?" Obama asked. "And you're coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses?"

Harris is polling ahead of Trump with Black voters who are registered to vote, 82-13%, according to the latest ABC News/Ipsos poll. That compares with 87-12% in the 2020 exit poll (a slight 5 points lower for Harris; no better for Trump). Black men are at 76-18% (compared with 79-19% four years ago), the poll found.

These differences from 2020 aren't statistically significant, and Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock said he agrees.

"I don't buy this idea that there will be huge swaths of Black men voting for Donald Trump. That's not going to happen. What I would urge folks to do is to show up, to understand that if you don't vote, that is a vote for Donald Trump. That's the concern.," said Warnock on a Tuesday campaign call with reporters.

Part of the Harris campaign's plan for Black men includes legalizing recreational marijuana nationwide. Such a move would "break down unjust legal barriers that hold Black men and other Americans back," the campaign said in its release.

This takes the Biden administration's current stance, which includes pardoning people convicted of marijuana possession, a step further. For Harris' part, such a proposal is evidence of her evolving position. She has become more progressive since her time as attorney general of California when she was heavily criticized for aggressively prosecuting weed-related crimes.

Asked if she ever smoked by Charlamagne tha God back in 2019, Harris responded, "I have. And I inhaled -- I did inhale. It was a long time ago. But, yes."

She went on to clarify that she believes in legalizing the substance.

"I have had concerns, the full record, I have had concerns, which I think -- first of all, let me just make this statement very clear, I believe we need to legalize marijuana," she said. "Now, that being said -- and this is not a 'but,' it is an 'and' -- and we need to research, which is one of the reasons we need to legalize it. We need to move it on the schedule so that we can research the impact of weed on a developing brain. You know, that part of the brain that develops judgment, actually begins its growth at age 18 through age 24."

Her answer garnered backlash due to her record prosecuting the substance, particularly given the racial disparities in punishment nationwide. Harris' new proposal looks to correct those historical inequities.

But is it enough?

In addition to the new proposals, Harris has aggressively been campaigning in Black communities in the past week, stopping at several local Black-owned businesses and churches in North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Michigan as well as appearing on several media programs with predominately Black audiences.

In September, Harris told a group of Black reporters in a moderated conversation hosted by the National Association of Black Journalists that she was "working to earn the vote, not assuming I'm going to have it because I am Black."

Her campaign launched a "Black Men Huddle" organizing call on Monday, which featured remarks from campaign senior officials Tony West, Brian Nelson, Quentin Fulks and Rep. Cedric Richmond. Later, there was a weekly event focused on Black men supporting Harris featuring actor Don Cheadle.


"What the vice president is doing is giving us the tools to be able to go and have meaningful, impactful conversations when Black men turn back around to us and say, 'Well, what's in it for me,' I think that we have policy and tools like this that we can say exactly that," said Fulks.

Doc Rivers, who interviewed Harris for his "ALL the SMOKE" podcast on Monday, said he agreed with Obama's comments last week and pushed for Black men to cast their ballots.

"I agree 100% with President Obama -- it's unacceptable not to vote. When you look back at what your parents and your grandparents had to do to get the right to vote, that's unacceptable for me," said Rivers. "But there are Black men who out there that feel hopeless, they don't believe a vote helps them in either way, and I'm here to tell them they're wrong."

ABC News interviewed Black men in Pittsburgh's predominately Black Homewood Brushton neighborhood last Friday about their impressions of Harris and what she needed to do to get their vote.

Aquail Bey, a student at The Community College of Allegheny County and president of its veterans club, said Harris needs to meet them where they are and genuinely speak with them.

"She's doing a good job right now, but I think she should have -- go to places where they are, you know, meet them on their own terms, you know. Go to the neighborhoods where they are, go to the barber shops ... " Bey said. "Wherever the Black men are, go to where they are, speak to them a way that they understand."

Aaron Stuckey said people shouldn't assume Black men aren't getting behind Harris.

"Just poll us instead of assuming that that's where we're not going," he said.

Copyright © 2024, ABC Audio. All rights reserved.

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Harris holding moderated conversations with Liz Cheney in three battleground states

Posted/updated on: October 21, 2024 at 6:47 pm
Joel Angel Juarez for The Washington Post via Getty Images

(WASHINGTON) -- Vice President Kamala Harris is doing a series of moderated conversations with former Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney in suburban cities in the battleground states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin on Monday -- the day before in-person voting begins in Wisconsin.

With roughly two weeks until Election Day, the effort is part of the Harris campaign's effort to reach swing voters in the crucial battleground states. Harris is speaking with Cheney in the suburban areas of Chester County, Pennsylvania; Oakland County, Michigan; and Waukesha County, Wisconsin.

The conversations were to be moderated by Bulwark publisher and longtime Republican strategist Sarah Longwell and conservative radio host and writer Charlie Sykes.

Both Harris and former President Donald Trump have events scheduled for battleground states this week as they work to win over voters in what's expected to be a close contest. On Monday, Trump is spending time in in the battleground state of North Carolina.

While in Pennsylvania, Harris and Cheney worked to pick off Republicans disaffected with their party's nominee who may vote for the vice president and focus on the dangers Trump poses to the country and to democracy -- especially white suburban women who voted Republican.

"There are months in the history of our country which challenge us, each of us, to really decide when we stand for those things that we talk about, including, in particular, country over party," Harris said.

Cheney, a staunch Trump critic who endorsed Harris in September despite their party and policy differences, said "every single thing in my experience and in my background has played a part" in her supporting Harris.

"In this race, we have the opportunity to vote for and support somebody you can count on. We're not always going to agree, but I know Vice President Harris will always do what she believes is right for this country. She has a sincere heart, and that's why I'm honored to be in this place."

At the Michigan event, Cheney said that she understood why some Republicans would find it difficult to publicly support Harris.

"I certainly have many Republicans who will say to me, 'I can't be public.' They do worry about a whole range of things, including violence. But, but they'll do the right thing," she said.

“And I would just remind people, if you're at all concerned, you can vote your conscience and not ever have to say a word to anybody, and there will be millions of Republicans who do that on November 5th, vote for Vice President Harris,” she added.

Cheney voted to impeach Trump following the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and was vice chair of the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. She received backlash from Trump and other Republicans for her criticism of the former president and was censured by the Republican National Committee.

Since her endorsement of Harris, Cheney has campaigned for the vice president -- including in battleground Wisconsin, where she called Trump petty, vindictive and cruel.

Cheney is among a handful of prominent Republicans, including her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, who have pledged to support Harris' bid.

The number of actual votes these events could move, with just two weeks to go, is small -- yet could be significant in states expected to be decided by slim margins, Joe Zepecki, a Milwaukee-based Democratic strategist, told ABC News.

Ideally, Zepecki said, the events would bring over "Republicans available to Harris who might need one last reminder, one last push in that direction."

George Levy, a 66-year-old voter from Delaware County, outside Philadelphia, said he was an independent until Trump entered the political arena in 2015.

"I'm never going back. I'll be a Democrat from now on," he told ABC News as he waited in line to enter the intimate theater in Malvern, Pennsylvania, a Philadelphia suburb that was the site of the first Cheney discussion of the day.

"[Cheney] did the right thing for our country, and I'm proud of her for doing that," he said. "I know she doesn't agree with many Democratic policies, but she believes in our country and loves our country, and I appreciate her speaking out."

In a social media post on Monday, Trump attacked Harris for campaigning with Cheney, claiming that the former Wyoming Republican congresswoman is going to lead the United States to go to war with "every Muslim Country known to mankind" like her father and former Vice President Dick Cheney "pushed" former President Georgia W. Bush to the war in the Middle East.

Harris' events this week will feature more interactivity where voters see the vice president taking questions -- including during her town hall with CNN on Wednesday in Pennsylvania.

ABC News' Sarah Beth Hensley contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2024, ABC Audio. All rights reserved.

Harris works to appeal to Black men, a critical group for Democrats

Posted/updated on: October 16, 2024 at 1:45 pm
Brendan Smialowski/AFP via Getty Images

(WASHINGTON, D.C.) -- For a second day this week, Vice President Kamala Harris is focusing on a key voting bloc that is a critical base for the Democratic Party: Black men.

On Tuesday, Harris will participate in an audio town hall event with Charlemagne tha God, host for the popular "The Breakfast Club" podcast. Also on Tuesday, the vice president is meeting with Black entrepreneurs in Detroit.

Her events come a day after her campaign rolled out a comprehensive plan -- just three weeks until the election -- to help Black men "get ahead" economically, which includes providing one million fully forgivable loans to Black entrepreneurs and an effort to invest in Black male teachers.

In an interview on "Roland Martin Unfiltered," also released on Monday, Harris argued that economic policies that consider "historical barriers" facing Black people benefit all Americans.

"If you have public policy, and I'm talking about economic public policy specifically at this point, but if you have public policy that recognizes historical barriers and what we need to do then to overcome," Harris said. "First, speak truth about them and then overcome them, that in the process of doing that, not only are you directly dealing with the injustices and the legal and procedural barriers that have been focused on Black folks, but by eliminating those barriers, everyone actually benefits, right?"

The focus on Black voters comes after former President Barack Obama sternly chided Black men over "excuses" to not vote for Harris while speaking to a group of Black at a campaign field office in Pittsburgh's East Liberty neighborhood last week.

"You have [Trump], who has consistently shown disregard, not just for the communities, but for you as a person, and you're thinking about sitting out?" Obama asked. "And you're coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses?"

Harris is polling ahead of Trump with Black voters who are registered to vote, 82-13%, according to the latest ABC News/Ipsos poll. That compares with 87-12% in the 2020 exit poll (a slight 5 points lower for Harris; no better for Trump). Black men are at 76-18% (compared with 79-19% four years ago), the poll found.

These differences from 2020 aren't statistically significant, and Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock said he agrees.

"I don't buy this idea that there will be huge swaths of Black men voting for Donald Trump. That's not going to happen. What I would urge folks to do is to show up, to understand that if you don't vote, that is a vote for Donald Trump. That's the concern.," said Warnock on a Tuesday campaign call with reporters.

Part of the Harris campaign's plan for Black men includes legalizing recreational marijuana nationwide. Such a move would "break down unjust legal barriers that hold Black men and other Americans back," the campaign said in its release.

This takes the Biden administration's current stance, which includes pardoning people convicted of marijuana possession, a step further. For Harris' part, such a proposal is evidence of her evolving position. She has become more progressive since her time as attorney general of California when she was heavily criticized for aggressively prosecuting weed-related crimes.

Asked if she ever smoked by Charlamagne tha God back in 2019, Harris responded, "I have. And I inhaled -- I did inhale. It was a long time ago. But, yes."

She went on to clarify that she believes in legalizing the substance.

"I have had concerns, the full record, I have had concerns, which I think -- first of all, let me just make this statement very clear, I believe we need to legalize marijuana," she said. "Now, that being said -- and this is not a 'but,' it is an 'and' -- and we need to research, which is one of the reasons we need to legalize it. We need to move it on the schedule so that we can research the impact of weed on a developing brain. You know, that part of the brain that develops judgment, actually begins its growth at age 18 through age 24."

Her answer garnered backlash due to her record prosecuting the substance, particularly given the racial disparities in punishment nationwide. Harris' new proposal looks to correct those historical inequities.

But is it enough?

In addition to the new proposals, Harris has aggressively been campaigning in Black communities in the past week, stopping at several local Black-owned businesses and churches in North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Michigan as well as appearing on several media programs with predominately Black audiences.

In September, Harris told a group of Black reporters in a moderated conversation hosted by the National Association of Black Journalists that she was "working to earn the vote, not assuming I'm going to have it because I am Black."

Her campaign launched a "Black Men Huddle" organizing call on Monday, which featured remarks from campaign senior officials Tony West, Brian Nelson, Quentin Fulks and Rep. Cedric Richmond. Later, there was a weekly event focused on Black men supporting Harris featuring actor Don Cheadle.


"What the vice president is doing is giving us the tools to be able to go and have meaningful, impactful conversations when Black men turn back around to us and say, 'Well, what's in it for me,' I think that we have policy and tools like this that we can say exactly that," said Fulks.

Doc Rivers, who interviewed Harris for his "ALL the SMOKE" podcast on Monday, said he agreed with Obama's comments last week and pushed for Black men to cast their ballots.

"I agree 100% with President Obama -- it's unacceptable not to vote. When you look back at what your parents and your grandparents had to do to get the right to vote, that's unacceptable for me," said Rivers. "But there are Black men who out there that feel hopeless, they don't believe a vote helps them in either way, and I'm here to tell them they're wrong."

ABC News interviewed Black men in Pittsburgh's predominately Black Homewood Brushton neighborhood last Friday about their impressions of Harris and what she needed to do to get their vote.

Aquail Bey, a student at The Community College of Allegheny County and president of its veterans club, said Harris needs to meet them where they are and genuinely speak with them.

"She's doing a good job right now, but I think she should have -- go to places where they are, you know, meet them on their own terms, you know. Go to the neighborhoods where they are, go to the barber shops ... " Bey said. "Wherever the Black men are, go to where they are, speak to them a way that they understand."

Aaron Stuckey said people shouldn't assume Black men aren't getting behind Harris.

"Just poll us instead of assuming that that's where we're not going," he said.

Copyright © 2024, ABC Audio. All rights reserved.

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